Talk:御御籤

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Aaand lots of other assorted rubbish from our magic- and religion-obsessed IP anon. This person is really getting up my nose. They add content that isn't right, or is almost right, or is exactly wrong. The formatting is out of date and often broken. They routinely add interwiki links to entries on the FR, MG, and ZH WTs, which entries usually don't exist -- so basically they're lying to try to make their contributions look more legitimate. I'm tempted to ask for a block ban, despite the collateral damage, given the sheer volume of shit this user pours into Wiktionary whenever they seem to go on holiday.

Incidentally, does anyone know offhand what school holidays might be going on in the UK, where I think this user is located? We could implement some kind of IP block ban that lasts just until that holiday period is over, and likely limit most of the damage. </rant>

... But I'm actually serious about possibly seeking an IP block ban. This user is persistent, pernicious, and nearly deaf to our entreaties to get decent source material, format properly, stop adding dead links, stop adding nonsense, etc. etc. (I say nearly, because they did make something of an effort to figure out formatting -- albeit a bit half-assedly, and about two years ago, since when they haven't kept up at all ensuing changes.)

If you have any expertise with Japanese or Mandarin, any at all, be on the lookout for anon edits, particularly from the 90-something, 5-something, and 150-something IP ranges.

(Incidentally, I'm mostly off WT for the next few weeks due to work demands, so I can't patrol Japanese entries as closely as needed.)

‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 07:19, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hmm. It's a "written fortune". An example I could find for the alternative spelling "御神籤":

御神籤(おみくじ)を引(ひ)いたら大吉(だいきち)/凶(きょう)と出(で)た。

Omikuji o hītara daikichi / kyō to deta.

The fortune /sacred lot he drew predicted very good/bad luck.

--Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 07:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Eirikr Please check if you're happy with おみくじ. I've changed the definition at 御御籤. How does it look now? --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 08:23, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

As for the block, the IP user deserves it on the grounds of using multiple accounts alone. --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 12:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the IP definitely deserves to be blocked, but there's no real pattern to the addresses they use. To block them effectively would require blocking all Sky Broadband users in the UK, and probably Easynet as well. Although they account for the vast majority of edits from those ISPs, that's still a radical and unprecedented step. We've been using shorter-term blocks applied as soon as we spot them in order to limit the damage, but they've adapted by changing their IP frequently. Perhaps we need to automatically revert and/or delete all their edits regardless of quality just to discourage them- but that would be radical and unprecedented in itself. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:33, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Bad definitions are bad edits. We have a small number of editors working with Japanese who can babysit the anon user. Yeah, tentatively support’ nuking his/her new edits, no matter what quality.--Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 20:30, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply